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Mal Mandrake
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Posted - 2011.10.16 00:36:00 -
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I believe CCP has an excellent plan for the future of Eve in conjunction with Dust 514.
Dust 514 will be a first-person shooter for the PS3. It is essentially a game about mercenaries. We as Eve players will be able to create contracts with Dust players to either a.) attack planet installations, or b.) defend planet installation (There may be other uses, but this is as far as I have gone so far.)
What installations are we talking about? Well PI of course.
That is right, in the near future you will have to pay to keep your cozy planets secure.
Now here is an interesting point, sort of a big picture look at how this works.
A lot of people have asked why PI is so easy, safe, overpowered. CCP has made it this way to encourage a rapid growth of PI installation across the galaxy. Whenever we set up a new planet with PI we are essentially creating another "level" for Dust players to play on.
Think about how many planets with PI are spread throughout the galaxy right now? Through our efforts we will have created an endless amount of levels for Dust players to fight on.
Now for how this saves Eve.
Each and every Dust purchase becomes a GIANT advertisement for Eve online.
At least a portion of Dust players will become curious about this mysterious Eve game for the computer. Some players may find that they want to try giving the orders instead of taking them. This will cause an influx of new players to Eve. Conversely there will be an influx of Eve players going to Dust. Muahahaha on CCP's part. Genius!
I am guessing that corporations between Dust and Eve will be linked (as in the same corp) which would mean you can fatten your Eve wallet by doing some assault missions in Dust. (This is an excellent opportunity to use your children as ISK farmers)
Dust will also provide an excellent ISK sink in keeping colonies alive. I imagine this will also translate into higher prices for PI materials. (Good for me as a PI industrialist)
-Mal Mandrake
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Mal Mandrake
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Posted - 2011.10.16 00:48:00 -
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Joseph Dreadloch wrote:DUST 514 is going to sink CCP, it will not compete in the world of console shooters. It will have a population of a couple thousand players who happen to be EVE players who own a PS3.
What happens to DUST 514 and EVE a year after its launch, when BF5 and CoD13 launch?
Naysayer!
The FPS world is currently saturated with current warfare games, (Call of Duty, Battlefield, etc) There is really only a few sci-fi multiplayer FPS's out there. Halo springs to mind, but their last game for that is a few years old now.
As an FPS player myself, I look forward to having an near endless amount of maps/missions to take on.
What you say may end up being true, but I believe the current FPS landscape will eat a game like Dust up. |

Mal Mandrake
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Posted - 2011.10.16 01:19:00 -
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Steveir wrote:Well the tie in deal with Sony could prove to be a clever plan. Sony could promote this as The Game to play. While I agree that the FPS are normally drop in, drop out, the very fact that this is persistent could attract considerable interest. I would love the option of flying a Battleship (fitted for orbital bombardment) to a planet to "help" out. That could raise considerable interest in lo-sec. ..and how about t2 Planetary interaction. Colonies, expensive installations that yield considerable passive tax isk, but are subject to hostile takeovers by Dust players; again would tie the games together well. Personally I am very optimistic at the possibilities here; but we shall have to wait and see if CCP delivers :)
Agreed, biggest hitch is seeing if CCP delivers. (I am hopeful on this one) |

Mal Mandrake
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Posted - 2011.10.16 01:42:00 -
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BLACK-STAR wrote:Wow. why I'm replying... cause bad threads like this should stop.
This doesn't save EVE, this is just another bad post. DUST no way saves EVE, the question you're asking yourself is if DUST is ready for EVE.
DUST to survive longer than 6-12 months via console? lols
We all know CCP is too slow to deliver feasible content in a short amount of time, what's wrong with your head if you think CCP is committed to a constant explosion of new content simultaneously to EVE and DUST and keep both boats afloat? They can't. And console players' have a way shorter attention span compared to PC EVE community.
You are literally looking at a disaster. And you seem to be sitting on a horizontal stick on your chair.
Why do you gotta ruin a thread full of civil conversation?
It is possible to make a post with a dissenting opinion without being a jerk.
If you consider it a bad thread then move on. |

Mal Mandrake
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Posted - 2011.10.16 21:58:00 -
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Cherry Nobyl wrote:i find myself most curious about the environments. so far all that i've seen has been a temperate, or perhaps the barren. what does an oceanic pi installation look like? or plasma? or gaseous? do the environments have effects much like a wormhole system is affected by a pulsar? for instance, would a plasma planet have a positive effect on energy weapons?
/inquiring minds are inquiring.
I'm envisioning a plant like the Storm planet the Clones were made on in Star Wars. |

Mal Mandrake
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:06:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Azahni Vah'nos wrote:This can in fact be a double edged sword where you actually need balance. You can't have either game affecting the other to much, but enough to make it interesting.
Imagine if right now someone from another game could take control of your POS with a raiding party and the only way you can really do anything about it is play that game as well, or get someone else in it to fight for you, does that sound inviting?
The concept of the EVE/Dust514 interaction sounds good in theory, but the implementation needs to be done correctly. It will be interesting to see how it pans out. Yep. My guess is there will be two control elements, the TCU and some TCU link/power/supply/anchor blah blah on a planet, you have to have both to take a system. If it is just one, then Eve or Dust won't matter, but if you have to have both, then both matter. Hopefully it is not just as simple as that, maybe each habitable planet has to have some switch flipped as well, plus the TCU things, so there is a multi-phased buld up. While feets are going after the SBUs, grunts aer going after the habitable planets, then both team up on some sort of linked TCU assault. If dustbunnies can be bombed, and perhaps only from the warp in location on a planet, and that they can only take a planet while an SBU is being attacked, then maybe fleets will need to split up some too.
My money is on that Dust will be just about PI, and nothing to do with space battles of any sort. Also nothing to do with sov, or taking ownership of systems. |

Mal Mandrake
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Posted - 2011.10.16 22:19:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote: 1) Dust will be free-to-play and therefore has no revenue for CCP 2) It's only on 1 platform, alienating the rest of the potential gamers 3) Why would a PS3 owner suddenly decide to purchase a PC or MAC to play one game? That's a lot of investment, dontcha think? 4) How long until one of 5,000 + member alliances decide to infiltrate some PS3 owners forums and find out when and where they will be 'playing' Dust - and nuke them from orbit? Two weeks? Heck, someone could even pay mercenaries in EVE to do it. Would be kind of ironic that PS3 players would be kicked in the teeth by the right-click of a mouse... 5) CCP marketing department 6) Lack of funds.
1.) If by free to play you mean it costs 60 dollars to buy... then yes. (Console game revenue is derived from sales and map packs alone)
2.)True, but that is the way of exclusives.
3.)Umm... You think console owners don't own a PC as well? Are you serious? All those xbox and ps3 forums must be fictitious.
4.)There will be balance and control to this. Ever used a nuke in SC? or an orbital strike in Command and Conquer? or a killstreak in CoD? Also I imagine you won't be able to orbital bombard in highsec. (Which raises an interesting point on Dust in highsec in general.)
5.)Eve trailers are amongst the highest quality out there.
6.)I don't have access to any budgeting documents sent by CCP, if you have access please share.
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Mal Mandrake
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Posted - 2011.10.17 02:51:00 -
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CCP Shadow, do you have any comments on the accuracy of my original post?
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